Make Yorscalp Crowns Tradeable

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Original author: xosofiya (Flarum #805)

Title: Tradeable Yorscalp Crown

Description:

Just a request to make the crown tradeable. It’s currently untradeable.

Why is this a good idea?

Would help people test different builds easier without over investing. The crown materials are so hard to get right now with them only being available in Tan - Hard.

What risks or downsides does it have?
Since the crown is kinda general use, too easy to share maybe? Just 1 for physical and 1 for magic. People would have no place to spend their zeny (if they actually wanted to). But also, If people can’t test out the crown, no one would buy the mats too anyway since most would just default to TDRC

Additional Info:

TDRCs were originally not tradeable, but was made tradeable in the server. Maybe the same thing can be applied to the Yorscalp Crowns

I know some people didn’t agree with TDRC being made tradeable before and if they don’t agree with this too, personally would be fine for me since I already know for my build that this is the one i will use. Was just thinking about the other people that are unsure and want to try out different options for their builds.

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Original author: Sagii (Flarum #369)

+1

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Original author: Griztel (Flarum #1024)

+1

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Original author: Miks (Flarum #1209)

+1

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Original author: iKat (Flarum #248)

+1

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Original author: KaptainPickles (Flarum #722)

-1 Sorry. Work for it.

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Original author: Reeen (Flarum #1317)

-1
all new content stuff should be untradeable for a certain amount of time.

HoL Gear etc.

Make people work for the equip when they want the new one and play the content

Its enough of a help that u can buy the materials for it

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Original author: KaptainPickles (Flarum #722)

@KaptainPickles

Replying to my own thread. as this keeps coming up in Global…

All endgame gear eventually becomes tradeable in MuhRO, as was pointed out in the start of this topic. This gear has barely been out.. Why do people think endgame gear should be tradeable immediately? To “Test builds?” I personally see that as a poor excuse to skip a lot of content for high end, should be difficult to get, gear. The gear is strong. It’s not supposed to be easy to get. It’s gear that should be worked for and acquired through actual effort in a server where new content actually matters.

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Original author: Sora (Flarum #876)

+1

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Original author: xosofiya (Flarum #805)

@KaptainPickles Hi! If you look at the Past Hero cards (which combo with Yorscalp Crown), most of the skills that are being buffed are skills that are not meta. Making it tradeable (and having those cards released) would help people check if the builds/skills would be viable. I just made this suggestion because a friend wanted to borrow it to see if it would be good without overspending (cause not a lot of people have enough zeny to test things out on their own only to be disappointed by the result. Looking at Furious Gears) and we realized it’s not tradeable.

Now, personally, like i said, this doesn’t affect me cause i already have mine and i’ve already proven that it’s better for my build even without Maristella Walter card yet.

Not being able to help others test them just means that those weird/niche builds like mine (SkE, Melee Biolo, etc.), would be forgotten as people would be afraid to over invest and just go for the safe route of building TDRC (which was also supposed to untradeable btw).

The purpose of this suggestion was to:

  1. Help people explore other niche builds without overspending (so those classes and builds don’t just die of obscurity) which i don’t think is silly, but we all have our opinions
  2. Make it line with what was made to TDRC cause TDRC is actually THE best crown for most meta builds
  3. Have a viable alternative to TDRC

People would still “work” for the gear, just like how they “work” for TDRC if they actually wanted Yorscalp instead. Not being tradeable just benefits endgame gamers (like me) who can sell the mats at higher prices. Locking out newbies who might want to explore other niche builds. Also, if they “work” for it now (which just means buying it off the market from endgame people who already have a lot of zeny btw - cause you know, those newbies can’t do Tan Hard), and regret making it, they now have a useless gear and punished for exploring non meta options.

Whatever the decision for this is, i have my crown already and it’s great for me :white_flower:

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Original author: yurizeta (Flarum #846)

+1 very nicely put.

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Original author: KaptainPickles (Flarum #722)

@xosofiya

This is still a poor excuse to make things tradeable, I’m sorry. This is not a good reason to make extremely strong gear accessible to new players. It should be worked to be acquired. This is not a test server.

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Original author: xosofiya (Flarum #805)

@KaptainPickles it’s ok. we can agree to disagree. I just don’t understand how it’s considered “extremely strong gear” when it’s equivalent to TDRC (for niche builds mind you - not even meta ones except for maybe DK?) which was made tradeable. It’s not equal to (extremely strong) HoL gears which are good that they are not tradeable.

I also don’t understand how they will not “work” for it. People work for gears and farm to buy mats for crafting gears all the time and ask on global “please craft me TDRC/Time Gap, i have the mats” / “please enchant crown/weapon for me”.

I think i’ve already made all my points. I’ll stop replying to the thread now. Thank you :slight_smile:

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Original author: KaptainPickles (Flarum #722)

@xosofiya If it’s “equivalent” to TDRC, then use that to “test” builds. Not new gear intended for end game content. As we get closer to newer content - sure, make Yorscalp crowns tradable to prepare for it. But not immediately after release of the content the crowns came in on.

You mention that people would still work for it. Lets look at the TDRC. Once that became tradable, D1/D2 parties practically died and it was nearly impossible to get rep until a few players got involved and started runs to help people get rep again. You pretty much HAD to buy the crown as a new player, And still people pretty much have to buy it because it is difficult to farm for. D2 rep takes for freaking ever to get 2k rep for enchanting it, and it requires 1k D1 rep just to enter D2, which also takes forever and isn’t solo-able as a new player.

I disagree with you about weird/niche builds being totally forgotten. I myself am a physical melee cardi. there’s like 2 or 3 of us on the server. People want to try different things and you don’t need end game gear to try them out.

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Original author: meo0ow (Flarum #700)

@KaptainPickles

this is totally irrelevant to this thread. People can choose to buy or farm.

+1 to Sofiya ideas make it tradable makes no harm at all point.

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Original author: KaptainPickles (Flarum #722)

@meo0ow This topic of this thread is Making the crowns tradable. My comment is 100% relevant to this thread.

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Original author: Akin (Flarum #861)

+1 It’s appropriate to make yorscalp crown tradeable as well since TDRC already is. Tbh, if it just made tradeable from the get go there wouldn’t be much drama to this.

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Original author: KaptainPickles (Flarum #722)

Alright, you know what, It’s clear my opinions are moot and apparently offensive (we even have 1 person telling me my points are irrelevant without even reading the thread.. I mean come on.. seriously?). Making them tradable is fine, despite how making things tradable prematurely in the past have ruined portions of the game for other players. Its fine that new players are immediately granted the ability to acquire some of the most powerful end game gear to let them skip entire sections of content in a content driven server. And hey, It’s totally cool to treat this server as a test server for “testing builds”.

That all said - I’m out of this thread as I’m tired of being ignored and treated as if what I’m saying holds no value whatsoever. It doesn’t matter anyways - I wouldn’t expect this change to happen any time soon even if it is accepted. Takes a bit for accepted suggestions to make it into a patch, Maybe I’m wrong, who knows.. Either way, good day to you all and good luck with your RO adventures, may they be eventful and exciting!

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Original author: hoegenaamd (Flarum #1246)

@Akin maybe should trade lock TDRC afterall just saying. Bad precedent. Making it tradable was a mistake

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Original author: Pipo (Flarum #133)

@xosofiya

+1