Make Flush Weapon Refine Hammer not use BSBs

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Original author: Randomced859 (Flarum #364)

I think this was forgotten. Remember the project where hammers changed to non BSBs materials for non meta weapons? I think at this point, it needs to be changed now after Time Dimension Weapon arrived.

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Original author: EvilLumi (Flarum #372)

Agree. To add to it: BSB should only be used on end game gear.

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Original author: kaiakaito (Flarum #244)

+1 from me
I fight like for a long time to see Mid Tier Weapons/Armor Sets to be easier aviable to the players, like Flush, Muqqada or others. So removing the Bsb and add Mjo Energy/Dynite or other materials would be lovely.

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Original author: jinbou (Flarum #618)

@EvilLumi well flush is still BiS for magic AC. And also situationally extremely strong for some niche builds of AM, DK, Cardi if I’m not mistaken. Unfortunately some builds don’t have a time dim weapon, so they’re still stuck with either Dim or Flush.

Although sure I wouldn’t mind if the bsb requirement got lowered a little bit

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Original author: lakadema (Flarum #470)

I’m kinda against it.

Flush is still extremely potent, like jinbou said. Magic AC still use flush dagger as their bis weapon, SS dk also use the flush sword and it’s still bis or very close to it.

And with the current change in drop rates, a LOT of ppl started farming mjolnir so there shouldnt be any shortage of base mats to craft it (and more abundant access of bsb).

So -1 for me, at least for now. Might be a good idea to take out the bsb requirement later when much stronger weapon arrives pushing the meta further.

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Original author: Randomced859 (Flarum #364)

@lakadema Imagine only one weapon is meta. Then others are trash. You’re keeping the BSB requirement because of ONE WEAPON???

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Original author: lakadema (Flarum #470)

@Randomced859

Pretty much yea, but that’s my point of view. If there’s 1 or 2 weapons that are still bis or close to then i dont think its a good idea to take out the bsb requirement.

Maybe lower the bsb requirment like jinbou said but not taking it out completely.

But that’s me lol, if everyone want them without bsb then its fine too.

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Original author: EvilLumi (Flarum #372)

@lakadema So punish everyone over ONE or two is okay with you? that’s terrible. :smiley:

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Original author: lakadema (Flarum #470)

@EvilLumi

I would like to think it the other way around: If there’s still one or two weapons that are bis, is it fair to give them preferential treatment over everyone else? I’m also pretty sure that even if we take out the bsb requirment, most people will still ignore the trash flush weapons and focus on the useful ones which are still bis or very close to.

The main reason I’m kinda against this particular suggestion is that this could lead to a slippery road of ‘‘priviledge cases’’.

And yea, I’m a terrible person kekek

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Original author: Jetago (Flarum #331)

considering that Time Dimensions and Dim Glacier weapons are BiS for most, if not all builds and these have refinement boxes that don’t consume Bsb, i don’t see why not removing it from Flush

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Original author: EvilLumi (Flarum #372)

@Jetago Big reason for this. Dimensional weapons have boxes that don’t require bsb. It’s already one of the best weapons and easiest to obtain, and easy to upgrade. No one is hurt by this at all, it’s just another inconvenience for people who would like to try these weapons, but don’t want to over invest in them.

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Original author: intels (Flarum #330)

@EvilLumi yes, i wanna invest on my memes but not THAT MUCH

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Original author: KaptainPickles (Flarum #722)

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