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Original author: StellarFlare (Flarum #319)
Please. Rerolling is already 1m, don’t make it hurt even more
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Original author: EvilLumi (Flarum #372)
I too believe this is needed. Very much. Please.
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Original author: Randomced859 (Flarum #364)
I’m not sure on Nebula. But I agree on Varmundt gears should have rerolls especially 2nd slot because the enchant is wide from 1-5. Also it’s very hard to get Normal or boss on Rings as well.
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Original author: asukia (Flarum #349)
Letting players re-roll individually seems a bit too good, especially since there’s no more full reset. Going for a 100% reset would be a fairer deal, I think.
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Original author: StellarFlare (Flarum #319)
@asukia I’m not too hot on gambling issues sir
Make me gamble less not more
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Original author: EvilLumi (Flarum #372)
@StellarFlare This is the issue. People seem to accept this gambling mentality like it’s okay, or normal. It’s not. It’s annoying, it’s compulsive and unhealthy. If you’d like, you can join the billions of slot games out there and make yourself feel like garbage all day long, while bankrupting yourself in the process. I would prefer to farm for my gold, seek the achievement, and feel the reward. It’s awful to have to feel this gloom over the idea of wanting to upgrade something, knowing you’re just going to BURN everything you worked hard for, and then pray that it’s worth your time in the end. No, I would rather be happy. Stellar is not the only one who feels this way either. There are plenty of people who farm zenny instead of doing these trivial things, so they can AVOID it.
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Original author: asukia (Flarum #349)
@StellarFlare
I feel the same way. As a player, I’m totally on board with you, and I’m pretty sure most other players are too. We want this whole gambling thing to be less of a hassle. Who wants it the other way around, right? We’ve got real lives to live, after all.
On the flip side, it’s not great for the server’s health for a long term. It’s all built that way thanks to those high-end equipments.
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Original author: StellarFlare (Flarum #319)
@asukia The server health are the players and gambling on enchants and grading are the biggest quit moments we have right now. The moments where you’re so mentally done you just leave the game and think of never coming back.
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Original author: EvilLumi (Flarum #372)
@asukia No, it’s built that way because kro wanted players to play forever, and give obscene values to items. A proper solution would be to ask for relevant items, instead of asking you to burn everything and try again. People would be more willing to gather thousands of items in trade, than burn what they farm and end up with nothing. You can give value to items in other forms, but give us the choice, rather than forcing us to be addicts towards a trivial goal.
This is the only server where I graded and upgraded my gear, and I want to leave this server on a daily basis because of it. I don’t want to be reminded that I have to do it all again in the next patch, because it was sickening to fail such an irrational amount of times. I’m not a gambling addict, and I personally hate losing a jellopy, let alone millions of zenny. Let me farm slowly and earn my way, so I can feel good about it.
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Original author: Muh (Flarum #1)
We’re going to look into individual rerolls for varmundt equipment after solving some technical difficulties, hopefully soon.
But constellation equipment already got a custom tweak for making enchanting easier (upgrade). I’m not saying no at this point, just that it might be more unlikely to be added for this equipment.
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Original author: StellarFlare (Flarum #319)
@Muh Please allow this for Nebula
Rerolling 30 times on your 4th slot just to try the ods on both the 3rd and the 2nd slot is nothing but maddening and leads to heavy burnout. Being able to upgrade your 2nd and 3rd slot is incredible sincerely, but upgrading the 4th slot doesn’t mean anything if you don’t get what you want you know?
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Original author: asukia (Flarum #349)
@StellarFlare yeah good points.
I’m also agree with these one. but that’s not the solely reason why peoples leave / quit. some people also leave because bored or have no idea what about to do anymore after finish build a high-end game equipments.
and as @“EvilLumi”#372 mention, this gamble stuff also designed keep the player stay in the game for some reason.
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Original author: EvilLumi (Flarum #372)
@asukia Well, gambling was designed to make you lose, hence why it’s so popular among large companies who want to make a profit from their product. It’s also very destructive for over achievers, who WILL invest to get their way. This creates just a destructive environment overall, and ruins the mood. The only reason phone games make money is because people don’t understand this concept, and will never realize it because they feel it’s “normal”. Well, this normal is not acceptable, and should never be acceptable in any game. It’s literally made to take your funds for a fraction of the return.
This is why people quit. 
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Original author: StellarFlare (Flarum #319)
The odds of getting your chosen enchant are compounded currently, that means you get
(7,70+2,00+0,30)/100 * (14,00+2,40+0,20)/100 * (15,00+4,50+0,50)/100 chance to get what you want in your armor in case you don’t want the armor main stat. Any failure means you spend 1m (minimum) every time you reroll.
The odds are 5 times lower if you need to get an specific 4th enchant. So allowing for rerolls would make it so you can get the 2nd and 3rd enchant first, then you can get the 4th without having to worry about compound odds