Improve eden coin rewards from eden quests

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Original author: CongaLyne (Flarum #748)

Currently if you want to farm eden coins, it’s very easy to get hundreds per minute by having alt-clients follow you and turn in eden board quests with you.

It turns getting 33 coins per trip into easily getting 99 or more.
I think this is fine since farming eden coins is one of the least interactive parts of the game but it’s frustrating that you’re forced to multi-client for optimal eden coin payouts.

Maybe eden boards could be reworked so that the highest tier ones pay out 3x their normal amount but can only be taken on one client at a time?
This would maintain multi-client farming rates to a reasonable degree while also not pushing people into multi-clienting if they want to farm eden coins effectively.

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Original author: cruro (Flarum #223)

I feel the same way about heirloom/biosphere essence farming, but I guess it’s not an option to take it away anymore after so many players prepared accounts specifically for that.

For eden coins, even without multi-clienting, the current rate is not too bad I think (roughly 1 bbg worth of eden coins every ~3 mins alone in power plant). But curious how others feel about it.

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Original author: jinbou (Flarum #618)

@cruro

For eden coins, even without multi-clienting, the current rate is not too bad I think (roughly 1 bbg worth of eden coins every ~3 mins alone in power plant). But curious how others feel about it.

Well, as someone who doesn’t like multiclient, eden coin farm is still a big pain for me, even after the rework to the quest rewards. So much that I just don’t do it and buy bubblegum/the one potion from the cash shop/market lately

Sure let’s say 3min for a bbg, need the one potion too so that’s another 3min. I just don’t want to spend 5-6min in a boring map with weak mobs every time I want to do a 30min farm session. That 6min kills what little motivation I have to farm, too much for me, needs to be repeated too often. Buying from market/cash shop is preferrable even though its pretty expensive

Meanwhile people who multiclient talk about how eden coins are basically free and how they make like 1.5k-2k+ coins in an hour with a few accounts :face_holding_back_tears:

Overall, I’d love it if there was a change that improved farm speed for people who stick to single-client farm, without nerfing or buffing things for people who multiclient, since multiclient farm is already in a good spot. I’m not sure how that would be possible, but I’d be very happy if it happened for sure

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Original author: MadMonkey (Flarum #165)

To be fair, nothing really pushes you to multiclient.
I’d even say the current rate is good enough you don’t actually have to.
Sure, you’d make less in the same time than multiple chars.
But you can still consistently hit 300-600 coins in 30 min or so.
Nothing to scoff at.

@jinbou let’s say 3min for a bbg, need the one potion too so that’s another 3min. I just don’t want to spend 5-6min in a boring map with weak mobs every time I want to do a 30min farm session

But that’s not really a problem of Eden quests not being rewarding enough tho, is it?

Now I don’t have anything against this suggestion per se but is it really a problem?

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Original author: jinbou (Flarum #618)

But that’s not really a problem of Eden quests not being rewarding enough tho, is it?

I think it is? E.g. if the rewards were doubled for single-client then it’d take half the time to do it and not be as bothersome

But you can still consistently hit 300-600 coins in 30 min or so.

Nothing to scoff at.

Even if I set aside my subjective bias about how boring it is, it still wouldn’t be worth doing the quests economically imo. It’s just better to purchase bbg/the one potion from other players/cash shop and use that time to farm somewhere. Imo it’s something that is simply not worth doing with single-client.

Whereas with multiclient it’s definitely 100% worth it.

Ofc it’s subjective how rewarding those quests should be, if the devs don’t want to make eden consumables too easy to obtain then they can keep things as they are. Then I’ll just keep buying them from other players/cash shop, it’s not a big deal. I personally dislike when multiclient trains give a too big of an advantage in ro servers, but in muhro this advantage is only limited to eden quests, so it’s kinda whatever

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Original author: jinbou (Flarum #618)

Even if I set aside my subjective bias about how boring it is, it still wouldn’t be worth doing the quests economically imo

Actually let me make a correction

  • Doing eden quests with single-client to buy The One Potion is never worth it, since The One Potion Boxes are sold for a pretty reasonable price at the cash shop

  • Doing eden quests with single client to buy BBG is sometimes worth it, sometimes not. BBG is ridiculously expensive on cash shop for some reason: its eden vending machine price is almost the same as The One Potion price, but its cash shop price is over 4 times more expensive than The One Potion cash shop price. So it needs to be bought from vends, which has volatile prices so it’s hard to say something

    I’d say the BBG boxes in cash shop need to be readjusted to a more reasonable price, currently its never worth buying them, but that’s for a different suggestion thread

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Original author: Stepbro (Flarum #799)

I dont mind the current situation of eden coin, but i would never say no to quality of life changes. I never buy the one potion. Only BBG as for me, its not worth farming eden coin for it.

I do farm eden coins whenever an event is coming up in less than 30mins, so its a waste to pop a bbg, and its enough for me to sustain my farming needs with just bbg as consume.

But if double the eden coin reward then yea might add the one potion as my extra consumes

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Original author: MadMonkey (Flarum #165)

@jinbou I think it is?

The way you presented it first?
Not really.
But fair enough.
You raised some good points.

Still think it’s not really that much of a problem but I certainly wouldn’t be throwing a fit should the staff decide to improve further on this.

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Original author: EvilLumi (Flarum #372)

@CongaLyne You’re still disrupting the way people want to play, because you don’t want to play that way. It’s a choice, with benefit in mind, which creates more work for that benefit.

Also, Eden rates are fine right now. One board gives 100, if not more. It shouldn’t take you that long to get what you need, if you really need it. If you want more, put in more work. You seem to be okay with that on other subjects. Stay your road.