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Original author: muric (Flarum #421)
Dear GMs,
I suggest introducing “Mystical Amplification Scroll” item for magic classes.
This consumable could temporarily boost magic skills, adding strategic depth and enhancing gameplay diversity.
It can be bought with 1 Eden Coin/Instance Coin for a box of 25 scrolls.
Thank you for your consideration.
Best regards,
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Original author: Set_R (Flarum #195)
Please, no. We already discussed this scroll, and there is no reason for it to be available. Imagine if we start asking for a lot of skills scrolls? I’d like a Perfect Weapom one, can Muh give me this too?
No need for MP scroll.
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Original author: muric (Flarum #421)
@Set_R
Hi ,
Thank you for sharing your viewpoint on the “Mystical Amplification Scroll” suggestion.
It’s worth noting that the “Mystical Amplification Scroll” is official item. Comparing it to items that are not available within the game, like the “Perfect Weapon” scroll, might not be entirely equivalent.
I appreciate your feedback, and I’m glad we can have these discussions to collectively shape the game’s future. Your input is valuable in ensuring a balanced and enjoyable gaming environment.
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Original author: StellarFlare (Flarum #319)
Sincerely, I think that MA scroll takes a little bit of the uniqueness from the AM class tree. I don’t really like the idea considering that standpoint but still, I don’t think it would be something harmful to add.
I’m not really in favor of it, but if it gets added then I’ll just shrug and use it basically
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Original author: cruro (Flarum #223)
I can relate to the argument that it feels a little “cheap” to have a signature wizard spell available for everyone.
However I still have two points in mind in favour adding them:
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Original author: Set_R (Flarum #195)
I think you guys misunderstood me, we already had this suggestion and was negated by everyone. Each Magic class has your own Jam, no need to use others.
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Original author: muric (Flarum #421)
The idea behind the “Mystical Amplification Scroll” is to make magic classes more diverse and enjoyable to play. Each magic class is special in its own way, but this scroll would give them a temporary boost to their magic skills. This would add an extra layer of strategy to the game.
The scroll doesn’t mean to take away the uniqueness of each class. It’s more about giving players more options during battles to think strategically.
I know this has been talked about before, and people have different opinions. But I think having more choices for different classes can make the game even better.
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Original author: Choi (Flarum #323)
@muric Could you provide some more context on the Mystical Amplification Scroll in the official servers? Like how common this item is or how it’s obtained?
Also, I wanted to understand how the Mystical Amplification Scroll works: https://www.divine-pride.net/database/item/14593/mystical-amplification-scroll. It says “this will make the next magic attack performed have an additional 50% Magic attack power” which is how Mystical Amplification used to work where only the next ability is increased by an additional 50%. Is this item still available in the official servers, and if so, does it only provide a buff on the next attack?
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Original author: muric (Flarum #421)
@Set_R
It seems like you’re suggesting that I’m being selfish or seeking personal power. I want to clarify that my intention with the “Mystical Amplification Scroll” idea is not about my personal gain. Rather, it’s about introducing a concept that’s already being used in other servers to enhance gameplay for everyone. Try to keep the conversation respectful and focused on the ideas.
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Original author: SpaceHelm (Flarum #274)
@Choi Also, I wanted to understand how the Mystical Amplification Scroll works: https://www.divine-pride.net/database/item/14593/mystical-amplification-scroll.
well bassicly it works exactly the same as how Mystical Amp on the Warlock does. nothing difference.
And actually the same reason why the Blessing / Agility / Assumptio Scroll is exist. Just why not?
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Original author: EvilLumi (Flarum #372)
@SpaceHelm This is a good point. Agi/Bless/Assumptio scrolls exist. Same argument can be made that these ruin the essence of a priest class, but it really just doesn’t matter. It’s a helpful item, with a limited use. I can’t imagine hoarding these everywhere though. How do you people play with so many items on your keys? @_@ (AB MAIN SO SLOTS ARE FULL 24/7)
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Original author: anm767 (Flarum #444)
At the moment you say magic and what comes to mind is SVS AM. With the scroll there will be more options. Options make games more fun to play, so we are not all funneled into SVS AM.
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Original author: Set_R (Flarum #195)
You guys feels SVS is the only option coz you are too lazy to play other builds thats the truth. SA hits more than AM, and yet only Choco plays it seriously. HN Magic is hella strong too, as it is Arbitrium Cardi. But you guys only want to play SVS AM coz it’s easy and dont need to understand nothing; just mindless spam and copy others gears/build.
There is no need for MP scrolls to make other non-AM Magic builds good since each one has its own jam
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Original author: Choi (Flarum #323)
@SpaceHelm - Yeah I guess that’s what I’m confused about. The description says that “the next magic attack performed [will] have an additional 50% Magic attack power,” which is different from the current behavior of Mystical Amp which amplifies matk by 50% for 60 seconds.
@EvilLumi - I would say the main difference between those is that Amp magic is a self-buff whereas the Agi/Bless/Assumptio is not.
I’m biased as an AM main, but I do agree with Set here that I don’t think other builds aren’t playable. I do agree that AM is strong but with the caveat that the SVS build is reliant on a 1-minute buff that has a 5-minute cooldown while also mainly being stuck on ghost element. Additionally, AM is a DPS-focused class that doesn’t have the supportive capabilities that the other classes have. Amplify Magic is a big 1.5x damage boost, and I personally don’t think that other magic classes do 33% less damage than what AMs do.
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Original author: EvilLumi (Flarum #372)
@Set_R I would stop calling people lazy, it’s rude, and you’re assuming a lot of things on people you hardly know. People just like their meta, because they’re probably just starting and wanting the best, most efficient things to help support them in their struggle to accumulate enough damage to do anything difficult, with hardly any gear.
Not everyone chooses to spend their time testing things, so this meta, to some, is the only answer, until they reach their point of comfort, to expand their knowledge, like you. Also, why does this bother you? You don’t have to use these scrolls if you don’t want to. Let people just use their items and farm the way they want to. Your argument is based on your own idea of what this will be used for, and it bothers you that some other class will use it? You must really hate that SA can heal, res, jump almost like a champion, can buff stats, has several aoe skills, and can use any element, because that class alone excludes a lot of the other choices. Just play your class and let people play theirs, their way. If that includes some scroll that is an official item, then that’s their choice. It can only harm you in pvp, but that’s another discussion.
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Original author: Yrsenn (Flarum #282)
I disagree with this suggestion.
@muric while I understand your idea is to make other magic classes viable, the thing is they already are viable. I would say players simply aren’t aware of this or maybe they just wanna play AM tbh. In fact, Mystical Amplification Scroll would make a class like SA stronger than AM using one of its own buffs.
Also, we just got Royal Hunting cards recently, which will bump magic classes DPS with Meyer Lugenburg + Friedrich Heine combo.
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Original author: Set_R (Flarum #195)
@EvilLumi Sorry for the lazy…
But playing your class is exacly playing the class, not stiching to a 50% increase Matk bonus.
I had played EM and SA for long time, so I know they don’t need MP scroll to be usable. I’m saying MP Scroll is bad for overall context coz I already had the chance to use it in the past for those classes.
Also I know SVS looks very good coz it’s easy to handle, but overall, it is the worst build for AM, since it has reduction to 50% of the elemental table, depends on a 5 min cooldown buff that gets dispelled (or did) and has 0.7 cooldown (SVS), while other builds you can ditch DPS as a gatling gun. It’s confort build, but far from being the best.
edit: Water is the worst actually xD
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Original author: muric (Flarum #421)
The statement contradicts itself by initially stating that other magic classes are already viable, yet later argues that the Mystical Amplification Scroll could make certain classes like SA stronger than AM. This suggests that there may indeed be room for improvement in terms of class viability, despite the earlier claim.
It’s important to note that having stronger classes can actually make the game more active, diverse and engaging for players, as it encourages more gameplay, diversity, and healthy competition.
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Original author: muric (Flarum #421)
@Yrsenn
The statement contradicts itself by initially stating that other magic classes are already viable, yet later argues that the Mystical Amplification Scroll could make certain classes like SA stronger than AM. This suggests that there may indeed be room for improvement in terms of class viability, despite the earlier claim.
It’s important to note that having stronger classes can actually make the game more active, diverse and engaging for players, as it encourages more gameplay, diversity, and healthy competition.
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Original author: Yrsenn (Flarum #282)
@muric No, it doesn’t contradict itself. I may sound a bit rough here, but read my comment again. Being viable means you can play the class at any content and perfectly do so with more than enough DPS. By stating SA could overcome AM, I’m not saying SA isn’t viable right now nor that it’s far behind AM. In fact, it’s not behind to need need help from Mystical Amplification Scroll.
And that said, every magic build can shine if properly built. Mystical Amplification Scroll is simply not needed in the current state of the game. Might be different in the future, who knows.