Remove time gating for older content

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Imported from legacy Flarum.
Original author: EvilLumi (Flarum #372)

This is a problem a lot of other servers have too. The progression through old content is unnecessary, because we are not a low rate server, nor do we really have a meaningful progression system. I think ANY content below 200 should NOT be time gated. This includes the gray wolf reputation system, along with all instances up to glast heim challenge.

This is content which intentionally slows progress of the game as a whole, but it was created for the sole purpose of lengthening a patch, so that people have something to work towards while the patch is active. We are on episode 19, so places like gray wolf village, should be accessed much easier, and progressed through much quicker. It holds no purpose any longer and is easily skippable.

I would like you to consider changing the reputation gains and daily quest gains for the amethysts. This is already out of date content, along with the previous instances which still provide level 4 weapons and level 1 armor. Any content below 200 should be included.

I can be more specific but I would like to know your thoughts first. Thank you for reading. :smiley:

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Original author: Yrsenn (Flarum #282)

I kinda disagree. This server progression is actually great. Early game goes by very quickly, mid game gears have some QoL and conveniences, thus endgame can be quickly achieved. Much more comparated to other servers.

Now, specifically about Gray Wolf Village, it’s perfect the way it is. Like, for real. As an ex-NovaRO player, crafting a Gray Wolf piece and perfectly enchant it with only 4850 Amethyst Fragments + 30m feels amazing.

“It holds no purpose any longer and is easily skippable” IMO this statement couldn’t be more far from the truth. Gray Wolf still one the best gears in the game (the best Lv1 Armor) and very easy to make.

If anything, Snow Flower armor is the easily skippable one, since DPS increase isn’t that much compared to Gray Wolf and you need much luck to get the right enchant stones (just like Illusion/Automatic) because Flower Petals drop rate is very low and the Snow Flower market is wanting in general for now.

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Original author: bankcheckpoint (Flarum #354)

I actually agree, all daily quests should NOT be time-gated. This would help new players farm and get equipment to start easier. such as new players can farm to exchange for Helm of Faith and Snow flower equipment.

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Original author: Pipo (Flarum #133)

Geez, how could this come to mind, wolf armor as of today’s patch, is the strongest and most readily available equipment in the game. Easy to refine with safe tickets, easy to enchant with amethyst shards. Muh made 3 enchantments that can be cast with 100% probability, instead of the supposed 1! The old content is up to episode 15. Before writing such suggestions, start playing on the server and you will feel what is real comfort and relaxation in the game.

P.S. about OGHC - temp circlets are BiS caps for some classes, Muh made CD insta 1 day and getting 100% enchantment in 2 slot + high enchantment percentage in 3 with the help of blue gemstone. This is not old content, people in episode 20 are still using them.

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Original author: bankcheckpoint (Flarum #354)

@Pipo I’m very new player here. Can you advise me how Muh Wolf equipment enhancement is different than normal?
sorry to disturb you.

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Original author: Pipo (Flarum #133)

@bankcheckpoint My post says it all, use game discord for discussion and muhro wiki for info

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Original author: Yrsenn (Flarum #282)

@bankcheckpoint originally Gray Wolf Enhantments were all random, except last slot you could actually pay 2500 Amethysts to choose what you want. Here you can pay a certain amount of Amethyst + Zeny to choose every slot.

You can craft everything regarding Episode 18 from day 1, except Helm of Faith, which you would need to do daily quest for 10 days or so to reach 4k fame. If you gather materials quicker than that time, just ask someone on Discord or in-game with enough reputation to craft it for you.

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Original author: bankcheckpoint (Flarum #354)

@Yrsenn Thank you so much for info.
but Amethysts is gain from daily quest alone isn’t it? sorry if I got this wrong.
so to actually get up to 4,xxx of Amethysts would need quite sometime isn’t it?

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Original author: Yrsenn (Flarum #282)

Main source of Amethyst is not quest but mobs. Anyway, we’re starting to stray from this post discussion, so reach me out on Discord if you have questions.

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Original author: bankcheckpoint (Flarum #354)

@Yrsenn thank you bro.

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Original author: EvilLumi (Flarum #372)

@“Pipo”#133 GH challenge offers gear below 200. It’s old content, and nothing you say otherwise can prove it. It was implemented before 4th jobs came into the picture. It’s OLD content.

Gray wolf is also considered old, because we’re on episode 19. We’re ahead. Just because something might be better, or perfect, and easily refineable, does not mean it’s not old content. You’re asking people to go back and do quests for another patch, grind the reputation like it’s an official server, and be completely fine with it. Why? I could just skip to episode 19 and do those dailies, since they take longer anyway. I don’t necessarily NEED gray wolf gear for any of the new content, it’s just a PLUS.

The issue here is, there is no roadmap for gearing. it’s just–If you can skip it, then why not? So, if they’re easily skippable, why can’t they be easily obtainable? why are they locked behind a reputation system?

I’m not asking for handouts, I’m asking to get rid of time gating, but you seem worried about something else all together. You should also stop assuming people haven’t played before they post. You’re just another player with an opinion, and if you’re fine grinding those things, then do so, but let us, those who are seeking some availability, have the chance to get it.

Gray wolf system is just one of the things that concern me, but I guess asking for instances to be reset might involve some limitations with the coins. According to a post, some of these limitations were lifted before the migration happened from Novaro. Perhaps you’re just bitter about that and envy the fact that someone might achieve something much quicker than you were able to? I don’t know, I can only assume, like you.

@“Yrsenn”#282 It’s not as easy as asking someone to craft items, but to have access to them personally. I’d like to do a bit of gambling with amethyst to get the perfect enchant, and not have to bother someone to do it. As I said, I want accessibility and availability. Not asking for free amethyst, just tear down the invisible wall created by gravity to serve a meaningless purpose.

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Original author: Bahira (Flarum #141)

If you’re not fine with grinding you’re playing the wrong game.
Make your suggestions and have your personal opinion, but deal with it when ppl think otherwise and have their own about it.

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Original author: izuni (Flarum #258)

@Bahira

@Pipo

You think it’s fair and still laugh at those who fuck themselves to cultivate something, waste time to conquer just because you’re frustrated with the hypothesis that other people don’t need to go through the same thing as you, it’s not an official server so why difficulty where it doesn’t make sense ? You should stop being such a frustrated person with life, Pipo.

You deserve another 10 years of a server with Nova and Hector

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Original author: Yrsenn (Flarum #282)

@EvilLumi Kinda bothers me you keep saying it’s old and easily skippable when Gray Wolf still one of the best there is and you also won’t be able to farm Episode 19 with weak gears anyway.

You do know reputation with Gray Wolf Village isn’t needed to craft and enchant, right? At least not more than you need to proceed with Story Mode (1k fame).

Yes, you need 4k reputation to craft Helm of Faith, but, like I said before, it won’t take you long. You get way more daily fame here compared to official servers. Doing quests everyday takes like 15min and you’ll be able to craft Helm of Faith yourself in less than 2 weeks.

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Original author: kagi (Flarum #388)

@izuni Gray Wolf here is infinitely better than official servers hahaha, I don’t know what you mean. You could easily make a perfect Gray Wolf Armor in ~4 hours of grinding (If using 100% gum). Plus another few hours of grinding for refine tickets to get it to +10/11. Everything here is a lot easier than NovaRO already, from determined enchanting, zeny everytime you kill something and even the leveling. If gears become too easy to achieve, then why are you still playing a midrate server, let alone playing an MMORPG that’s meant to be “grindy”.

These quests take like an hour per episode depending how quick you are, maybe even up to 30 minutes if you’re using classes with high mobility. Take an hour off your day to spend it doing quests, it’s not that bad. You’re playing an MMORPG, you should know it will take your time away. Spend one hour per day doing the episode quests and in 4 days you’re done with all the quests, hooray, no more whining in forums! :9

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Original author: Muh (Flarum #1)

I’ve removed some of the recent posts that did not add anything to this discussion.

Keep it civil ~

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Original author: Muh (Flarum #1)

This suggestion as a whole will be declined. That doesn’t mean there won’t be absoluetly no changes as there are some suggestions directed at specific older content.